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	<title>Comments on: More EnterpriseServices Fun</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Gentile</title>
		<link>http://winterdom.com/2002/11/moreenterpriseservicesfun/comment-page-1#comment-725</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Gentile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I got a little story about AppCenter. Once upon a time I was leading a .NET technical team at NaviSite. Our team and others were and did build an Auto Provisioning system based on all sorts of monitored parameters and data of systems. The AppCenter team came for a &quot;discussion.&quot; It was very clear they were more interested in &quot;borrowing&quot; our ideas. AppCenter did not impress me then nor does it now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a little story about AppCenter. Once upon a time I was leading a .NET technical team at NaviSite. Our team and others were and did build an Auto Provisioning system based on all sorts of monitored parameters and data of systems. The AppCenter team came for a &#8220;discussion.&#8221; It was very clear they were more interested in &#8220;borrowing&#8221; our ideas. AppCenter did not impress me then nor does it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas Restrepo</title>
		<link>http://winterdom.com/2002/11/moreenterpriseservicesfun/comment-page-1#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas Restrepo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I guess that is debatable... at US$3000, appcenter is not exactly cheap, particularly when you live in a third-world country. There&#039;s also the operating costs that enter the TCO equation.&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m certainly trying to learn more about appcenter, since I know fairly little about it, but from all I&#039;ve gather to learn, I&#039;m not exactly thrilled by it, from a technical POV...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess that is debatable&#8230; at US$3000, appcenter is not exactly cheap, particularly when you live in a third-world country. There&#8217;s also the operating costs that enter the TCO equation.<br />
I&#8217;m certainly trying to learn more about appcenter, since I know fairly little about it, but from all I&#8217;ve gather to learn, I&#8217;m not exactly thrilled by it, from a technical POV&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ingo Rammer</title>
		<link>http://winterdom.com/2002/11/moreenterpriseservicesfun/comment-page-1#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator>Ingo Rammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2002 08:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In my opinion, using &quot;yet another product&quot; for load balancing shouldn&#039;t be a problem. Yes, true, when using Web Services or Remoting, you could use any TCP/IP or HTTP based load balancer, including maybe some open source packages (but that&#039;s yet another product, too). On the other hand, I guess that if a corporation needs an application server backend scaling larger than a quad-processor intel box - or a zero downtime hot standby failover cluster - the price (in terms of TCO) of yet another server side product shouldn&#039;t really matter too much. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-Ingo&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, using &#8220;yet another product&#8221; for load balancing shouldn&#8217;t be a problem. Yes, true, when using Web Services or Remoting, you could use any TCP/IP or HTTP based load balancer, including maybe some open source packages (but that&#8217;s yet another product, too). On the other hand, I guess that if a corporation needs an application server backend scaling larger than a quad-processor intel box &#8211; or a zero downtime hot standby failover cluster &#8211; the price (in terms of TCO) of yet another server side product shouldn&#8217;t really matter too much. </p>
<p>-Ingo</p>
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